Most of these gainers have enough fats and starches in them to make them pretty thick already, not to mention scoop sizes are usually enormous. For that reason I usually end up mixing gainers with water so it’s thin enough to drink easily/without clumping up or getting syrupy.

The only side effect from gainers can be you gain too much weight, i.e fat. Gainers are to be used for limited periods of time, such as a bulk cycle, and then stopped so your body fat % doesn’t get too high.

The best “cheap” mass gainer is some cheap whey protein + whole milk + peanut butter. You can order in bulk online or get this stuff all at Costco for a fraction of the per-serving price you pay for a pre-made gainer.

What about it? Should you include it in your stack? Definitely. Is it a must? Not necessarily, but given how cheap it is I think it’s worth investing in.

Short answer is no, you don’t “need” any supplements. For the long answer you can read my post on why whole foods are best but sometimes supplements are a smarter option: https://skinnyyoked.com/bodybuilding-supplements/yes-food-is-best-but-its-not-always-the-smartest-option/

sounds like it

Your comment is lacking bro

Yes, when it comes to joints it’s all about preventative supplementation because once they get messed up, it’s hard to fix them again without expensive surgery.